JoeyOK, I've seen a lot of discussion on the UH-60 crash at Bin-Laden's house. What do you guys think happened?
May 8, 2011
fly911Joey, I'm not sure that I subscribe to the "settling with power" theory, or that the ship was just too heavy to arrest the rate of decent. Maybe a little bit of each. I mean they had to have burned off quite a bit of fuel getting there, which would indica... moreJoey, I'm not sure that I subscribe to the "settling with power" theory, or that the ship was just too heavy to arrest the rate of decent. Maybe a little bit of each. I mean they had to have burned off quite a bit of fuel getting there, which would indicate that they could hover upon reaching their destination, unless they did a mid-air refueling, and just took on too much fuel weight.
May 8, 2011
Joey
Some guys say SWP, and some say D.A. There are a lot of "arm chair" special ops pilots on some other sites.
May 9, 2011
scottswanbergThe Special Ops community has the reputation of being "quiet professionals" for a reason. There are not many who have written or spoken of their involvement in secret operations. Anyone with any knowledge of who was operating those helos or what happen... moreThe Special Ops community has the reputation of being "quiet professionals" for a reason. There are not many who have written or spoken of their involvement in secret operations. Anyone with any knowledge of who was operating those helos or what happened is going to keep their trap shut. The rest of the world is free to speculate as much as they want.
May 9, 2011
Joey
I agree Scott. That's what I mean by "arm chair". There are some former uh60 pilots over expressing their opinions in other places.
May 9, 2011
WestOzHeliPilotI bet those guys practised over and over and over again, if it was "settling with power" then there must have been other conditions that contributed. It's look more towards small arms fire or something along those lines. Those pilots would've been hand pi... moreI bet those guys practised over and over and over again, if it was "settling with power" then there must have been other conditions that contributed. It's look more towards small arms fire or something along those lines. Those pilots would've been hand picked to fly this mission. I definatley don't think it was pilot error of any kind..... but I guess we'll never know!
May 10, 2011
scottswanbergWell, sometimes a scenario like that just cannot be anticipated, and with so much going on at once, I think it is a testament to the training and skill of those pilots that this type of thing does not happen more often. I crewed Chinooks in Iraq and Afgh... moreWell, sometimes a scenario like that just cannot be anticipated, and with so much going on at once, I think it is a testament to the training and skill of those pilots that this type of thing does not happen more often. I crewed Chinooks in Iraq and Afghanistan. I don't have enough fingers and toes to count how many times I almost died. And I have seen more than my fair share of bent birds.
May 10, 2011
mlangerMaybe I'm one of those "armchair" pilots -- although certainly NOT special ops -- because I blogged about this last week. I really think it was settling with power -- likely because the ground conditions were not fully anticipated. No blame on the pilot -... moreMaybe I'm one of those "armchair" pilots -- although certainly NOT special ops -- because I blogged about this last week. I really think it was settling with power -- likely because the ground conditions were not fully anticipated. No blame on the pilot -- heck, this is COMBAT! The link: http://www.aneclecticmind.com/2011/05/06/on-air-vortexes/
fly911Hanna, I could not open your link. Maria, the reason for my reluctance to blame settling is that I've been in settling with power intentionally for training and it is hard for me to believe that hitting the ground in that condition would be all that survi... moreHanna, I could not open your link. Maria, the reason for my reluctance to blame settling is that I've been in settling with power intentionally for training and it is hard for me to believe that hitting the ground in that condition would be all that survivable. By the time that you realized what was happening you would be trying to fly out of it, possibly winding up outside of the compound somewhere. I know that the Blackhawk has a pretty good energy absorbing landing gear and crashworthy interior, so you and Hanna could be right, but there were reportedly no injuries. So I'm staying neutral until we know more. less
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